For countably generated ideals, \Jc, of B(\Hil), geometric stability is
necessary for the canonical spectral characterization of sums of
(\Jc,B(\Hil))--commutators to hold. This answers a question raised by Dykema,
Figiel, Weiss and Wodzicki. There are some ideals, \Jc, having
quasi--nilpotent elements that are not sums of (\Jc,B(\Hil))--commutators.
Also, every trace on every geometrically stable ideal is a spectral trace