In this free-wheeling back-and-forth conversation (or, rhizomatic duologue), originally presented at Trinity College Dublin in September 2014 as part of the School of Education's "Pedagoics of Unlearning" conference, and now published as a chapter in THE PEDAGOGICS OF UNLEARNING, eds. Eamonn Dunne and Aidan Seery (punctum, 2016), L.O. Aranye Fradenburg and Eileen A. Joy investigate the multiple valences and traces of the terms “learning” and “unlearning,” while also bringing those terms into contact with psychoanalytic theory, discontinuist temporalities, autopoiesis, living (biological) process, ethology, intersubjectivity, attachment and affect, ecological thought, radical doubt (and hope), the Real, “holding” environments, politics, neoliberalism, the ethics of care, institutionality, creatureliness, failure, mourning, and yearning
