Hadronic decays of charmonia from BESII

Recent results on charmonia decays at BESII/BEPC are reported, including the observation of psi'-->K_S K_L, psi'--> Vector + Tensor and psi'--> Vector + Pseudoscalar for the measurement of the relative phase between the strong and electromagnetic decays of psi' and a test of the pQCD ``12% rule'' between psi' and J/psi decays; the test of the color-octet mechanism via chi_cJ --> p \bar{p} and chi_cJ-->\Lambda \bar{\Lambda}; the first observation of chi_c0--> f_0(980)f_0(980); and a study of the psi' and chi_cJ decays with K_S K_S in the final states.Comment: Invited talk in MESON 200

Hadron Spectroscopy from BES and CLEOc

Recent results from BES and CLEOc experiments on hadron spectroscopy and charmonium decays using J/psi, psi' and psi'' data samples collected in e+e- annihilation are reviewed, including the observation of X(1835) in J/psi --> gamma pi+ pi- eta', study of the scalar particles in J/psi radiative and hadronic decays, as well as in chi_c0 hadronic decays, and the study of the ``\rho\pi puzzle'' in J/psi, psi', and psi'' decays. We also make a few comments on partial wave analysis, and the study of the \rho \pi puzzle.Comment: Invite talk at Hadron'05, Rio de Janero, Aug. 200