In this interview, Reverend Clinton Johnson is interviewed by Kern Jackson about the Down the Bay community of Mobile, Alabama. Rev. Johnson and Dr. Jackson talk about changes they have seen in the community after integration and urban renewal, and Rev. Johnson talks about his grandfather’s shoe repair and paper shops. He also describes the challenges growing up in a large family with a small house, and reflects on the community dynamics Down the Bay, including playing ball in the street and watching movies at the Harlem Theater. He recalls some of his family history, and he also discusses memories of Central High School and the principal J.T. Gaines. Rev. Johnson also reflects on the changes that he has seen—and that he has not yet seen—in Mobile, and how that relates to his experiences as a pastor